I have had friends work at places where the first notice that they had that the place was closing was coming to work and finding the doors locked.
In the case of one pub the owner tried to run off without paying the last two weeks of wages. (An owner that had bought a very successful pub, changed everything that made it successful, and then was surprised when it was no longer successful….)
Restaurants and bars are the worst for this, I think.
You can agree to an agreement, then legitimately back out if the news will hurt others.
Though it would have been somewhat better if Mouse had said, “Go on” instead of “Okay.” That way he doesn’t actually agree to anything that puts him in a difficult spot.
Hmm… if it became bad enough that Mouse decided to jump ship, would it then be okay if he told the others?
Oh, no… I just had a terrible thought. What if it turns out that GRACE actually has the money to buy the store??
IDK, I think, this could be a good thing. I mean Carol was a horrible boss and she seems like she’s just the type to lock the doors and ‘forget’ to pay them. She conveniently forgets to tell them important information and doesn’t stick around to clean up the mess she makes by doing so.
A. Grump… yes, that seems to be a sad scenario. Pubs need the proper care. We have a pub called The Penny Farthing… it has gone thru several reincarnations. It seems to be improving at the moment. As it is the only British Pub in Salinas… I am pulling for it. (ps….it is WRONG to try to skirt wages! People work hard!)
EofO… indeed! Lots of sooty coal!
Pete… we are witnessing “a moment.” It’s a “what would YOU do” moment. We will see how Mouse deals with it.
Buzz… She does forget a good many things, don’t she? Paycheck-forgetting would cause full-on Artbox Staff Revolt… with pitchforks and torches. They’d go get her for sure!
Dada… The drinking hasn’t been kind to ol’ Carol. But look at the Rolling Stones… It’s amazing that they are still moving around on stage… forget that they’re all crinkly and sour-faced.
I’ve worked at a place that would have the boss leave on extended trips while collectors from creditors would show up and plant themselves waiting for any cash to come in which they could immediately take.
Auld… Yup had another place close its doors without paying us.
Squid… The art staff have got to be seeing the rising waters. I agree that Carol should keep them in the loop. She’s gotta be a good coach too. “Its the fourth quarter with 10 minutes to go and we’re down 14 points, c’mon team, don’t give up the ship, we can still win this one!”
Pete… Really? C’mon now, even if Grace could afford to buy the Artbox she’d never do it. Stupid she ain’t.
Seems Carol is in a pickle. We’ll have to see if the money from the sale will be given first to her creditors or her staff. Usually when bankruptcies goes down, those getting paid receive pennies on the dollar. What’s that saying? You can’t squeeze blood out of a rutabaga. And right now Carol is looking ever bit of a turnip. Not one that just flew in from Vegas. More like one that hitched a ride back on a farm truck.
Grump, I worked for two different insurance agencies way back in the day. Both got sold to larger companies who said that they would not change anything or fire anyone. Once the paperwork was signed and before the ink was even dry one of the companies fired half the employees and the other half quit within three months due to all of the changes that were just wreaking havoc.
In the other company I went from a 6 person mail room team down to a three person mail room team and our work load tripled. When I told my supervisor that we could work 24/7 for the next three years and not get caught up with our backlog he agreed with me, then said that they still wouldn’t hire anymore people for my team and we were going to be taking over another department on top of that. I quit that very moment and my supervisor looked surprise at the event.
So yeah, it’s not only bars and restaurants that screw with the employees by cutting staff and changing everything that actually works for something that doesn’t.
In my experience, when your company is bought out there are indeed no changes — for about six months. Then they all hit when they get their plans together.
Pash… Sigh… dire straits business practices are often foul. I have been in a few “take-over” situations, bought by another company and downsized… it never seems to go well. I worked for a small family-owned newspaper in Fallbrook, CA, called The Enterprise. When the owners sold it , along with their sister paper The Californian (Tememcula), to the Chicago Trib, the owners made off with some big money, and the workers tried to navigate the rocks. Many left or were let go. It warn’t pretty. I was also with Aaron Bros. when they were bought by Michaels… but there wasn’t too much turbulence there, at least not while I was working there.
Mary… that can happen, yes… but not in the little newspaper situation I was a part of. Changes happened, as I recall, pretty soon after…. as soon as they could figure out how to dump/dismantle The Enterprise… (The Trib really only wanted The Californian as Temecula was about to Boom).
A friend of mine worked for a tech company here in Maine – it was bought by its closest competitor, then liquidated.
Sadly , it was because the original owners hadn’t updated equipment in ten years – their competitor thought that they were getting a fab in decent shape – they only liquidated when they realized that they had been rooked.
The same friend then went to work for another tech company, one that was bought by another competitor. In this case the competitor bought what they expected, and is increasing both production and staff.
He just found out that the original owners were getting ready to liquidate – unreasonable profit expectations limited the jobs that they were willing to take; they had wanted 60% minimum profit per lot. The clients and customers pretty much stopped buying.
The new owners had saved his job by taking over. Two years later and he is still there.
Another friend works at a tech company in Clinton Mass. – the CEO/Owner busted himself back down to chief engineer, and sold the company to the lowest bidder – the employees.
He liked being an engineer, he hated being the CEO.
I have had friends work at places where the first notice that they had that the place was closing was coming to work and finding the doors locked.
In the case of one pub the owner tried to run off without paying the last two weeks of wages. (An owner that had bought a very successful pub, changed everything that made it successful, and then was surprised when it was no longer successful….)
Restaurants and bars are the worst for this, I think.
The Auld Grump
Guess now we’ll see if he is a man or a Mouse.
And Carol–coal in your stocking!!!
Carol, when the ship has sunk, it’s a little too late.
You can agree to an agreement, then legitimately back out if the news will hurt others.
Though it would have been somewhat better if Mouse had said, “Go on” instead of “Okay.” That way he doesn’t actually agree to anything that puts him in a difficult spot.
Hmm… if it became bad enough that Mouse decided to jump ship, would it then be okay if he told the others?
Oh, no… I just had a terrible thought. What if it turns out that GRACE actually has the money to buy the store??
IDK, I think, this could be a good thing. I mean Carol was a horrible boss and she seems like she’s just the type to lock the doors and ‘forget’ to pay them. She conveniently forgets to tell them important information and doesn’t stick around to clean up the mess she makes by doing so.
Now there’s the look of a woman who woke up in an Atlantic City alley…
A. Grump… yes, that seems to be a sad scenario. Pubs need the proper care. We have a pub called The Penny Farthing… it has gone thru several reincarnations. It seems to be improving at the moment. As it is the only British Pub in Salinas… I am pulling for it. (ps….it is WRONG to try to skirt wages! People work hard!)
EofO… indeed! Lots of sooty coal!
Pete… we are witnessing “a moment.” It’s a “what would YOU do” moment. We will see how Mouse deals with it.
Buzz… She does forget a good many things, don’t she? Paycheck-forgetting would cause full-on Artbox Staff Revolt… with pitchforks and torches. They’d go get her for sure!
Dada… The drinking hasn’t been kind to ol’ Carol. But look at the Rolling Stones… It’s amazing that they are still moving around on stage… forget that they’re all crinkly and sour-faced.
Too bad Ryan & Emily aren’t still together. She had the money and might have been inclined to buy the store.
Yat… they say timing is everything. Emily did have a hand (foot and appendage) in the pink Vespid over at Joe’s Cuppa Joe…
I’ve worked at a place that would have the boss leave on extended trips while collectors from creditors would show up and plant themselves waiting for any cash to come in which they could immediately take.
Auld… Yup had another place close its doors without paying us.
Squid… The art staff have got to be seeing the rising waters. I agree that Carol should keep them in the loop. She’s gotta be a good coach too. “Its the fourth quarter with 10 minutes to go and we’re down 14 points, c’mon team, don’t give up the ship, we can still win this one!”
Pete… Really? C’mon now, even if Grace could afford to buy the Artbox she’d never do it. Stupid she ain’t.
Seems Carol is in a pickle. We’ll have to see if the money from the sale will be given first to her creditors or her staff. Usually when bankruptcies goes down, those getting paid receive pennies on the dollar. What’s that saying? You can’t squeeze blood out of a rutabaga. And right now Carol is looking ever bit of a turnip. Not one that just flew in from Vegas. More like one that hitched a ride back on a farm truck.
stick… and I like rutabagers…
well, one thing is for certain… The ARtbox is in need… maybe a kickstarter?
IE ‘You’re not allowed to abandon ship until I’m well away on my lifeboat.”
Retail…
Sometimes you win, sometimes you just get by.
Grump, I worked for two different insurance agencies way back in the day. Both got sold to larger companies who said that they would not change anything or fire anyone. Once the paperwork was signed and before the ink was even dry one of the companies fired half the employees and the other half quit within three months due to all of the changes that were just wreaking havoc.
In the other company I went from a 6 person mail room team down to a three person mail room team and our work load tripled. When I told my supervisor that we could work 24/7 for the next three years and not get caught up with our backlog he agreed with me, then said that they still wouldn’t hire anymore people for my team and we were going to be taking over another department on top of that. I quit that very moment and my supervisor looked surprise at the event.
So yeah, it’s not only bars and restaurants that screw with the employees by cutting staff and changing everything that actually works for something that doesn’t.
In my experience, when your company is bought out there are indeed no changes — for about six months. Then they all hit when they get their plans together.
Chug… yes, that’s right.
Joe… (hello!) yes, that’s right!
Pash… Sigh… dire straits business practices are often foul. I have been in a few “take-over” situations, bought by another company and downsized… it never seems to go well. I worked for a small family-owned newspaper in Fallbrook, CA, called The Enterprise. When the owners sold it , along with their sister paper The Californian (Tememcula), to the Chicago Trib, the owners made off with some big money, and the workers tried to navigate the rocks. Many left or were let go. It warn’t pretty. I was also with Aaron Bros. when they were bought by Michaels… but there wasn’t too much turbulence there, at least not while I was working there.
Mary… that can happen, yes… but not in the little newspaper situation I was a part of. Changes happened, as I recall, pretty soon after…. as soon as they could figure out how to dump/dismantle The Enterprise… (The Trib really only wanted The Californian as Temecula was about to Boom).
A friend of mine worked for a tech company here in Maine – it was bought by its closest competitor, then liquidated.
Sadly , it was because the original owners hadn’t updated equipment in ten years – their competitor thought that they were getting a fab in decent shape – they only liquidated when they realized that they had been rooked.
The same friend then went to work for another tech company, one that was bought by another competitor. In this case the competitor bought what they expected, and is increasing both production and staff.
He just found out that the original owners were getting ready to liquidate – unreasonable profit expectations limited the jobs that they were willing to take; they had wanted 60% minimum profit per lot. The clients and customers pretty much stopped buying.
The new owners had saved his job by taking over. Two years later and he is still there.
Another friend works at a tech company in Clinton Mass. – the CEO/Owner busted himself back down to chief engineer, and sold the company to the lowest bidder – the employees.
He liked being an engineer, he hated being the CEO.
It can go all kinds of ways.
The Auld Grump