If anybody has ever done any artwork for clients, this toon should make some sense to you.
ain’t just art. ask any software developer about opinionated and fickle clients.
LOL, I have an artist going through that with me at the moment. I’m commissioning a logo for my farm project and even though I love her first test sketch I asked for some adjustments. She’s a great artist and she’s making me a punk llama logo as my farm will be titled “Punk Llama Farm”. I’m hoping that the logo will catch enough interest that people will actually read my fundraiser blurb on Indegogo.com once I launch it.
Indegogo is kind of like Kickstarter, except that you can try to raise money for anything. I’m going to try and raise enough money to start an organic goat farm to produce organic dairy and fresh organic fruits and veggies along with organic farm fresh eggs.
We will actually be buying a llama for the farm as well if we can raise enough money and one of the high end donation incentives is to “Punk our llama” nothing harmful to the llama of course, just shaved design patches and coloring.
*heh* I’ve commissioned a TON of art over the years. Web comics, graphic novels, wall sketches, logos, and presently the cover for my next novel as well as a game I have in development. I’ve worked with maybe a dozen artists in that time.
As a writer, I have a good grasp of continuing action, but I’m also pretty good and the “photo” story of a single picture, a short series of frames, or a novel cover. But I’m absolutely NOT an artist. As such, when I work with artists, I respect their skills and talents. Therefore, while I obviously have some input, I often go with what the artist envisioned, knowing they are far, far better than me at the visual rendering.
For my part, I decide what MUST be changed for purposes of story, then trust the artist’s vision. And I pay a fair amount, on time.
Not surprisingly, I have a good relationship with the artists I work with.
It’s perfectly intelligible to computer programmers too.
With the added bonus that the stuff they are complaining about is exactly what they asked for.
I’ve never done artwork, but several of my co-workers do and they fully agree with Randie’s observation.
The same thing goes for software development. “Oh, this report is perfect! It’s just what I need! Can you move this column of numbers over here and the line of totals over there and can we get shading on alternate lines, etc., etc.”
Wonder what got into Mouse. Never saw him talk so much to Randie before without babling!
Squiddies All… So you all have some experience with both sides of the situation. Randie and I have something in common here… Randie will most likely jump through the hoops, make tons of changes to make the client happy… and then not charge enough to cover all the work. Sigh.
Pash… An organic farm with goats and llamas and stuff sounds super cool! I personally love goat cheese… and think your idea is swell! Let us know when your farm is up on Indegogo.
Pete… Yah… artist vision and writer vision… there’s a delicate balance there… it’s touchy feely depending on how much the writer gives… how much the artist needs… it’s like a dance, isn’t it?
Anatman (Hello!), Mary, Yat … and yes, I do suppose web design and programming fall into that development area… where clients have input and can rearrange stuff… it’s these specialized art forms that require the patience and non-sissiness.
Ep… Mouse seems to have found his… motivation… sometimes when we find what it is we have been called to do… things fall into place…. even weakness and faults can’t get in ones’s way. Mouse seems to be driven.
YUP. This is how freelance art works; just grit your teeth and endure whatever changes the client wants (inane or otherwise). Chances are they’ll tell you to change it back to what you began with.
Dada… HA! Yah… how ’bout it… the ol’ “the first one was good… let’s just do that one” routine!
Ha. Sales. Some clients want the heavens to close a sale especially if they know you’ve got a sales manger’s quota pushing down on you.
Pasha… A web-fundraising punk llama logo should feature a purple mohawk, or maybe a red one if you want to catch a lot of attention. Only thing is, after you raise your internet funds, will normal folks want to buy milk or cheese that has a punk llama on the label?
Yeh, good logos are huge issues. They’re the public’s first and possibly last impression of what a company’s products or services are about. In a competitive market, a bad logo equals death.
Been there, done that, then screen printed the tee shirt….
*EDIT* Then there is the joy of processing digital pictures, straight from the camera… and finding naked pictures of the client’s girlfriend still in memory….
stick… bad logos do equal death… if you get an inexperienced artist to do your image, perhaps to save money… it reflects poorly on your business. It looks like you were trying not to spend. Not a good reflection.
Grump…that must’ve been a surprise… certainly the naked truth.
It… was something that I could have lived without.
Danged nice camera though – Rebel SLR.
I don’t think that she remembered that her girlfriend’s pictures were on the camera. A vacation on St. Kitts.
Sure Brig, I will post here when I launch so you can take a look. I’m absolutely loving the logo design that my artist is working up for me. The lama has a safety pin through one ear, a nose ring, and a spiked color on. It’s all attitude.
Yeah Stick, I definitely understand about bad logo’s sinking a business. I’m just hoping that people will go “Wait… what?” then be intrigued enough to read the label and understand that we are trying to put out a quality product, and that we are determined to bring good healthy food to people that is chemical, hormone, and GMO free.
I know it’s a gamble, but it’s worth it to me.
SO many memories, so many frustrating afternoons. so many “we are not using “Papyrus”!
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